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Post by Joel Anderson on Feb 21, 2011 22:49:55 GMT -5
So I read both your threads and I'll start off by saying congrats. No matter how bitter we are... and I'm bitter... you did what all of us couldn't do and made it to the end. That being said... James You could not be more wrong about me. Seriously. First off, let's get something straight. For that puzzle challenge, it took me 4.5 hours to get a score like that, and after seeing Jenn and Ethan go, I knew I HAD to win immunity. The only reason why I didn't do the following challenge was b/c it fell on a Wednesday and on Weds. I have night school and that particular Weds. I had work and night school and just didn't have time to do it. Otherwise, I was planning on going on an immunity run b/c I knew that I could no longer trust my allies. So, in this game, there seemed to be a lot of pointless backstabbing. Todd and Ashley backstabbed me and I was furious about it and then you turned around and did the exact same thing to Todd. He's probably going to want to ask you why, so I'll save it for him, but I want to know why should I award you my vote when you made such a dirty move against your alliance? Not to say that I'm not opposed to making bold moves, but you 3 had a tight alliance and I'm not sure why you would just randomly go against it. Also, what was the most satisfying move you made in the game? Finally, we didn't talk that much and I believe that communication is a 2-way street however I'm casting the vote and you're not. So... why should I award you my vote when we hardly ever talked Though, you were right about one thing. If any Ananaga member made it here, I would have voted for them over you guys. Ashley You know, going into this, I was ready to hand you my vote. After reading your opening statement, however, I am now not so sure. You said some things that really offended me. The alliance of me, you, Parvati and Todd was YOUR IDEA. Why would you make an alliance that you have no intention of keeping? You seriously were my closest ally in the game, and I suppose I'm just confused and would like some clarity, is all. Is it true that you had no intention of ever bringing me anywhere near the final? Also, you said it was really hard to vote out Parvati but you seemed to have no problems voting me out. Can you just explain that to me? My other question is were you really ever "my girl" as I so affectionately called you? You guys both seemed to do a lot of unnecessary backstabbing and I really do not want to vote for either of you... but I'm not that kind of guy. I respect Nicki and her game, so I will be voting but you guys will have to work for my vote, that's for sure. Both I bitched out Todd a LOT in the jury house for this, so now you guys get some of this. Nobody plays a perfect game. So I want to know What is 1 move that you regret making? Also name 1 way each juror and yourself is like the Survivor they chose. Aaaaand what are 2 negative things about the person you're sitting up against? Finally, in one sentence 12 words or less why should I vote for you? Answer mine and everyone else's questions fully and honestly and you'll get my vote. Good luck.
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Post by Ashley Massaro on Feb 22, 2011 11:16:04 GMT -5
Hey, Joel. I’m glad you’re not going to just hand me your vote. I’d rather work and earn for it than for someone to just give me it, so I’m perfectly fine with that. As for my Opening Statement offending you? I don’t think I ever said it was anyone’s idea, or even said it was yours, or mentioned that it was mine in the first place. However, it was your idea to align with me, and then we both agreed on pulling ore people in for safety. Take a look back at your AIM logs, I did. Why would I make an alliance that I had no intention of keeping? I actually kept it to the point where I could keep it without upsetting my first loyalty in China. In the merge, were you voted off with Parvati in the first two rounds? No. I also had my loyalty with Kelly, which meant that I was tied into the Anagana 3 and keeping Kelly’s allies safe at that point too, so that China/Anagana could work together successfully. I was playing this game, Joel. I had to have a back up alliance on Tortola if things didn’t go the way I wanted them to. There was only James, Todd, and I in an tribe of 7. We needed to control more votes and when the opportunity arose to get those votes that could help us down the line if we lost, I jumped at it.
I’m sorry that I wasn’t as loyal to you as I was to everyone else. As much as I wanted to be, I couldn’t, as the game had to move on. I felt more safe and protected in the China 3 with Anagana on the side. It was a promising outcome for me, I felt, and it seems after all of that, I was right, because here I am right now, trying to earn your vote. I did not have any intention of bringing you to the finale, Joel. It’s harsh and hurtful, but I really didn’t. Having you in the F4 wasn’t my plan, as my plan was to have China and Kelly in the F4 with me, this way I was in a super good position and wouldn’t really have to worry about anyone flipping, which did happen in the real F4 scenario. In regards to the Parvati vote, it was very hard, and I thought I stated that it was very hard to vote you out to? If not, I apologize. Voting out Parvati was hard, so I cast my vote in another direction and I managed to escape that without anyone raising any eyebrows or asking why the vote was a different outcome than expected. Tbh, that really did surprise me too.
And as I stated in my Opening Statement, I couldn’t do that again the following round with you, especially since everyone was voting you out, and if I had voted to keep you, that would have rose eyebrows and could have eventually put a target on my back if people had pieces together. You have to understand that I was playing for me to get to the end, Joel. I told you over PMs that everyone was wanting you out. In the end there was nothing I could do to save you without causing damage to my own game. About the “my girl” question, I think that goes one in one with the question about me having any plans to take you to the end of the game. My main, absolute, number one loyalty didn’t belong with you, and I’m sorry about that. You were a great guy and ally in the game, but none of my plans involved you in the end of the game with me. I “backstabbed” people that I felt wouldn’t help me a long way in the game. It got to the point where I had to choose between alliances, and as I said already, I do believe that I chose correctly, because here I am right now. I’m sorry if what I’m saying is coming off as harsh, but I’m just trying to be honest with you even if it may come across as blunt.
Lmao, poor Todd. <3 But um, let’s see. One move that I regret making is probably keeping Anagana in the game as long as we did. After Ethan had left the game, I did want to turn on Anagana that point and vote out Carolina, and that’s why I voted with both you and Parvati that round, because that’s what I wanted to do. I had figured Todd would do the same and we could get her gone, but that didn’t happen. There were 5 votes for Parvati and 3 for Carolina. I tried to stick my neck out on a limb that round, and it didn’t pay off, which is why, again, I felt it would’ve been too risky to do it again another week in a row. Yes, this game is about making risks, but not when they can be super reckless and could cost you the game when you’re so close to make it to the end. Now onto the Juror comparison part! Ethan was like Ethan, because I think he did have his sights on winning the game much like Ethan did, but in this game he just couldn’t keep it together the round he left and I think that’s what super contributed to him leaving the game. Parvati played like Parvati in the sense that she was fun to talk to, atleast for me. I liked speaking to Parvati on AIM and over PMs, as I’m sure Parvati was easy to talk to aswell.
Joel, I really saw you as a potential leader of Tortola. You were on AIM so much, you spoke to just about everybody from what I know, and you were a real positive force. However, much like Joel in Micronesia, the game was shaken up and you were put into a different environment: the merge. You fell UTR and I spoke to you less and less as the game went on, up until the point you got voted off. Kelly played like Kelly, or every Kelly basically in the game of Survivor in the sense that she probably will get INV edit of the game, LMAO. I love you, Kelly, but it’s so true. Kelly just kind of disappeared at the merge and missed three challenges, I believe. Next, I don’t really remember Carolina from Tocantins. I think she was the first boot, wasn’t she? The Carolina in this game definitely put a spin on her though, which is great. Todd played a lot like Todd, except for the super manipulative, evil side of the real Todd. Todd was good strategically and he was loyal to me just like he was loyal to Courtney. We were like, two peas in a pod. Don’t even get me started on Na’Onka. LMAO. Na’Onka was played perfectly as far as I’m concerned, so that was great. As for me, I feel like at times I did what I wanted to do, just like Ashley did. However unlike Ashley, I never lost focus of the game or the want to win.
You should vote for me, because I had the drive and determination.
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Post by Joel Anderson on Feb 22, 2011 13:34:10 GMT -5
You're kind of a bitch and I firmly believe that a lot of the jurors will have knives shoved in there from you in their backs. You clawed your way to the top and wasn't really afraid of hurting people. Loves it! I'm still not really happy about the way this went down, though I already knew most of what I asked you since Todd got voted out. Like I said in the jury house, it's like finding out your favorite love song was about a sandwich... You were my closest ally in the game so put yourself in my place for a second and realize that none of this is exactly pleasant to hear. That being said, no matter what happens I still think you're awesome Idk how I'm voting yet, but I wish you luck.
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Post by Ashley Massaro on Feb 22, 2011 15:19:19 GMT -5
Thanks! Good luck with your decision.
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Post by James Clement on Feb 23, 2011 14:28:48 GMT -5
Hey Joel, listen. Can you really hold it against me that I could be “more wrong” about you? I don’t know you, man. You don’t know me. So let us make a mistake there. I didn’t scope you out and calculate how long you were on the boards and how many times you signed on to figure out how much you did the puzzle. I couldn’t careless. What mattered was the end product and that is what everyone saw, and what everyone saw was you emerging from UTR with this crazy score and winning Immunity. That is it. I am impressed that you stepped up to the plate and really hit the ball out of the park, because that was going to be the round you left. So good job on sticking in the game another round longer, man. As for your outside activitiies, that’s okay. Everyone has a life, but when you came out with that one score it seemed like you didn’t have a life and no one wanted that competition in the game, that is why I sent the signal out to get rid of you as soon as possible. In regards to the “immunity run” it would have been a good one if you didn’t fluke out on the next competition, but you already explained why you didn't show.
I don’t think there was a lot of pointless backstabbing in this game. I think everything that was done was done for a reason and it was done to benefit the person who executed the backstabbing. Every round I backstabbed someone, it pushed me further into the game and got me to the end. I hold no regrets for the moves I made in this game, because I made them to get to the end which is the whole point of Survivor. I was not here to make friends, but while in the game that had to be shown so people could trust me and want to keep me around. I lied, I backstabbed, but I did it all for a reason. All these bullshit with people saying it was pointless is crap to me, they’re all just saying that because they were affected and sent out of the game. Ending my rambling and moving onto your first question, you should award me your vote even though I made such a dirty move against my alliance because it had nothing to do with you. You weren’t in the China alliance so if you’re going to seemingly be a bit bitter about everything else, what reason do you have to use that as something against me? I didn’t backstab you at the F4.
The most satisfying move I made in the game was at the F4 when I sent Todd out in a tie-breaker rock pull. The second best was the first big blindeside when Jenn was voted out, because no one on Tortola saw it coming except Ashley, Todd, or I. The reason I picked the F4 round when Todd left is because it was another round where I showed that I pulled the strings, I made the moves, and I decided the fate of people in the game. I put both Todd and Na’Onka in the danger seat, even though I had been aligned with them. They thought I was so loyal to them, that they turned blinde with loyalty while I had my eye on one thing and one thing only… the victory at the end of the game. People lose concentration in this game and get blinded by friendship, and when I signed up for this game, I wasn’t going to let that get to me. I have thought too much about friends in the past in games, that when I signed up for this one, it was going to be all game and nothing else. And it worked… I have not been in the F2 for the longest time and I here I am.
I don’t regret any moves I made in this game. Why should I regret any moves I made? I made it to the end so what’s to regret? If there is one thing I’m upset about it’s that I didn’t win the final challenge. This next question is going to be difficult for me because I didn’t watch some of the seasons that some of your castaways are from. I’ve never seen Ethan or Joel play so I have nothing for you guys. Parvati was kind of like Parvati because even though it was easy to approach her and get a conversation started and going, I did always get that gut feeling that she had more going for than she let on. She could have been a real player in this game if she didn’t let real life takeover. Kelly was like Kelly because she was almost not even in the game. The only round you even saw her was when she got voted out of the game, and that is the same for this game because when she got voted out, it triggered the arguments between Carolina and Na’Onka. Carolina played nothing like Carolina. The real Carolina had that really annoying sweet voice and was seemingly too nice. Carolina may have let on that she was nice but when she and Na’Onka went at it, it was easy to see that it wasn’t her personality at all. Todd played like Todd because he had a hag in the game, and that was Ashley, like Courtney from China. Na’Onka played a great Na’Onka and it was funny to watch her interact with other people in this game. This was a good cast overall.
You should vote for me because I don’t sugarcoat the truth whatsoever.
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Post by Joel Anderson on Feb 23, 2011 14:51:47 GMT -5
Yes, I can hold it against you. Sure we didn't talk, but I didn't go around saying shit about you that wasn't true. I'm all about getting to the end, and I can give you props for that. However, it doesn't matter if you make it to the end if you piss off everyone on the jury. Why do I care that you backstabbed Todd? 1. Who the hell cares, it's my question and I'm the one who's deciding the winner here, so you can stop being a fuck and answer the god damned question. 2. Because it shows how much of a snake you really are. You made this alliance at the beginning of the game and then you dumped him at the F4? Clearly that shows how little integrity you have to loyalties because you put both your allies in danger of going home.
Sure, I'll admit that I was overly bitter in my questions just to get you guys riled up a bit more. And I can respect a guy who doesn't sugarcoat the truth. However, there's something called tact. You should learn it the next time you backstab your way to the top.
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Post by James Clement on Feb 23, 2011 14:57:29 GMT -5
Ahahaha, okay. Good luck.
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